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	<title>Comments on: Stogie News: Analysis of Virginia Smoking Ban Legislation</title>
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		<title>By: Heathcliff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heathcliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 06:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a VA citizen, resident, and cigar smoker...I personally hate Tim Kaine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a VA citizen, resident, and cigar smoker&#8230;I personally hate Tim Kaine.</p>
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		<title>By: Heathcliff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heathcliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 06:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Private clubs, such as local VFWs and lodges, are exempt. Private clubs are those organizations that:

    * Are used exclusively for club purposes or events;

    * Operate solely for recreational, fraternal, social, patriotic, political, benevolent, or athletic purposes;

    * Have established bylaws, a constitution, or both, to govern its activities; and

    * Conducts the organization’s affairs and management by a board of directors, executive committee, or similar body chosen by the members at an annual meeting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Private clubs, such as local VFWs and lodges, are exempt. Private clubs are those organizations that:</p>
<p>    * Are used exclusively for club purposes or events;</p>
<p>    * Operate solely for recreational, fraternal, social, patriotic, political, benevolent, or athletic purposes;</p>
<p>    * Have established bylaws, a constitution, or both, to govern its activities; and</p>
<p>    * Conducts the organization’s affairs and management by a board of directors, executive committee, or similar body chosen by the members at an annual meeting.</p>
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		<title>By: gwpegasus</title>
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		<dc:creator>gwpegasus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an occasional cigar smoker and &#039;at-home&#039; pipe smoker.  What does it take to establish a legal &quot;private club&quot; so that I and my friends can enjoy our occasional puff?  I&#039;m searching for some free legal advice so that, if practical, some of us can establish our own private puffers club.  
Thanks for any help/insight/suggestions/etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an occasional cigar smoker and &#8216;at-home&#8217; pipe smoker.  What does it take to establish a legal &#8220;private club&#8221; so that I and my friends can enjoy our occasional puff?  I&#8217;m searching for some free legal advice so that, if practical, some of us can establish our own private puffers club.<br />
Thanks for any help/insight/suggestions/etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia Rosien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia Rosien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post on why you&#039;re against smoking bans - thanks for the food for thought. I&#039;ve invited a few bloggers to my site to weigh in on their thoughts -- please join us!

http://www.nomadik.com/blogs/the_nomadik_fanatik/archive/2007/04/10/support-smoking-ban-what-do-you-think.aspx

Julia Rosien
Nomadik Editor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post on why you&#8217;re against smoking bans &#8211; thanks for the food for thought. I&#8217;ve invited a few bloggers to my site to weigh in on their thoughts &#8212; please join us!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nomadik.com/blogs/the_nomadik_fanatik/archive/2007/04/10/support-smoking-ban-what-do-you-think.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.nomadik.com/blogs/the_nomadik_fanatik/archive/2007/04/10/support-smoking-ban-what-do-you-think.aspx</a></p>
<p>Julia Rosien<br />
Nomadik Editor</p>
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		<title>By: The Nomadik Fanatiks : Support Smoking Ban – What Do You Think?</title>
		<link>http://www.stogieguys.com/2007/01/stogie-news-analysis-of-virginia-smoking-ban-legislation.html/comment-page-1#comment-3701</link>
		<dc:creator>The Nomadik Fanatiks : Support Smoking Ban – What Do You Think?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Stogie Guys say the ban is just another paternalistic infringement on individual liberty and property rights. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Stogie Guys say the ban is just another paternalistic infringement on individual liberty and property rights. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 02:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have to leave bars often because the smoke becomes too much for my eyes and throat.  if they invite the public in, they have to follow a different set of rules- its not paternalism these people are taking away my right to visit public places and enjoy myself.  i favor the smoking ban.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have to leave bars often because the smoke becomes too much for my eyes and throat.  if they invite the public in, they have to follow a different set of rules- its not paternalism these people are taking away my right to visit public places and enjoy myself.  i favor the smoking ban.</p>
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		<title>By: The Stogie Guys &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stogie Guys Friday Sampler XXIX and Super Bowl Cigar Giveaway</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Stogie Guys &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stogie Guys Friday Sampler XXIX and Super Bowl Cigar Giveaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 14:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 3) With all the bad news about smoking bans (including the one that just went into effect in France) we were pleased that one commenter pointed out this article about a successful challenge in Colorado. Now let&#8217;s hope others follow suit and challenge these oppressive smoking bans. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 3) With all the bad news about smoking bans (including the one that just went into effect in France) we were pleased that one commenter pointed out this article about a successful challenge in Colorado. Now let&#8217;s hope others follow suit and challenge these oppressive smoking bans. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Displaced New Orleanian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Displaced New Orleanian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 01:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As one who lives in VA, and is quite familiar with the local political establishment (despite the moniker), while of course I don&#039;t like the fact that the Senate may pass, it&#039;s still got to get through the house. And as a general rule in VA, the Senate is QUITE a bit more liberal than the house. The Senate&#039;s come close on this issue before, but even if they pass it still has to get through the House. For an illustration of the disparity between the Senate and the House, look at some of the gun rights legislation from last year as an example. 
Now that&#039;s not to say that Virginians shouldn&#039;t protest to their state Senators and Reps (while I have, I don&#039;t think my representation in Arlington is very open to our arguments).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one who lives in VA, and is quite familiar with the local political establishment (despite the moniker), while of course I don&#8217;t like the fact that the Senate may pass, it&#8217;s still got to get through the house. And as a general rule in VA, the Senate is QUITE a bit more liberal than the house. The Senate&#8217;s come close on this issue before, but even if they pass it still has to get through the House. For an illustration of the disparity between the Senate and the House, look at some of the gun rights legislation from last year as an example.<br />
Now that&#8217;s not to say that Virginians shouldn&#8217;t protest to their state Senators and Reps (while I have, I don&#8217;t think my representation in Arlington is very open to our arguments).</p>
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		<title>By: jj</title>
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		<dc:creator>jj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are misreading the privatee club provision.  Private clubs would be subject to the smoking provision only WHEN THEY ARE PROVIDING A PUBLIC FUNCTION.  How about this amendment:  &quot;Operators of affected establishments can apply for a waiver to the smoking ban and pay an additional 5% &quot;smoking&quot; sales tax  on all revenue.  In addition, such establishments will install within 5 years an indoor air filtration system.&quot;  This would provide enough economic incentive for a high percentage of places to be smoke free and get the smoking nannies off your back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are misreading the privatee club provision.  Private clubs would be subject to the smoking provision only WHEN THEY ARE PROVIDING A PUBLIC FUNCTION.  How about this amendment:  &#8220;Operators of affected establishments can apply for a waiver to the smoking ban and pay an additional 5% &#8220;smoking&#8221; sales tax  on all revenue.  In addition, such establishments will install within 5 years an indoor air filtration system.&#8221;  This would provide enough economic incentive for a high percentage of places to be smoke free and get the smoking nannies off your back.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,

Thanks for your valuable comments, as well as for bringing that uplifting story from Colorado to our attention.

I&#039;ve added that article to our Recommended Reading page, which you can access from the sidebar, or here: http://www.stogieguys.com/links.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>Thanks for your valuable comments, as well as for bringing that uplifting story from Colorado to our attention.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve added that article to our Recommended Reading page, which you can access from the sidebar, or here: <a href="http://www.stogieguys.com/links.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.stogieguys.com/links.html</a></p>
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