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	<title>Comments on: Stogie News: Michigan Cigar Ban Idiocy</title>
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		<title>By: nomiantat</title>
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		<dc:creator>nomiantat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 15:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it now includes &quot;all places of employment,&quot; including tobacco shops. It&#039;s writtten so broadly, it could include hotel rooms.  
 
It had been amended by the state House last year to exempt cigar bars, tobacco shops that made 80% of their revenue in tobacco, and casinos, horse tracks and bingo halls.  
 
The Senate removed all exemptions and sent it back.  
 
There is speculation (a lot) that it will not pass the House in the all-inclusive Senate version since Detroit&#039;s 3 casinos are dead-set against it (there are 20 Native American casinos in Michigan it would not apply to).  
 
It was not voted on today. There is talk if the bill is sent to commitee, it will never emerge because Senate leadership was strong-armed into passing it the first time and does not want to deal with it again.  
 
We should know soon. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it now includes &quot;all places of employment,&quot; including tobacco shops. It&#039;s writtten so broadly, it could include hotel rooms. </p>
<p>It had been amended by the state House last year to exempt cigar bars, tobacco shops that made 80% of their revenue in tobacco, and casinos, horse tracks and bingo halls. </p>
<p>The Senate removed all exemptions and sent it back. </p>
<p>There is speculation (a lot) that it will not pass the House in the all-inclusive Senate version since Detroit&#039;s 3 casinos are dead-set against it (there are 20 Native American casinos in Michigan it would not apply to). </p>
<p>It was not voted on today. There is talk if the bill is sent to commitee, it will never emerge because Senate leadership was strong-armed into passing it the first time and does not want to deal with it again. </p>
<p>We should know soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike: It also includes tobacco shops? Now, if that&#039;s not the height of ridiculousness, I don&#039;t know what is. I mean, I disagree with smoking bans across the board, but at least I can understand the reasoning behind, say, wanting to ban smoking in restaurants. But in tobacco shops? Why on earth would a nonsmoker even walk into a tobacco shop? It doesn&#039;t even make a scrap of sense. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: It also includes tobacco shops? Now, if that&#039;s not the height of ridiculousness, I don&#039;t know what is. I mean, I disagree with smoking bans across the board, but at least I can understand the reasoning behind, say, wanting to ban smoking in restaurants. But in tobacco shops? Why on earth would a nonsmoker even walk into a tobacco shop? It doesn&#039;t even make a scrap of sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Padronnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Padronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s tell this Basham a-hole what we think of him: 
 
Phone: 517-373-7800 
Fax: 517-373-9310 
Email: SenRBasham@senate.michigan.gov </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#039;s tell this Basham a-hole what we think of him:</p>
<p>Phone: 517-373-7800</p>
<p>Fax: 517-373-9310</p>
<p>Email: <a href="mailto:SenRBasham@senate.michigan.gov">SenRBasham@senate.michigan.gov</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ban could be approved today. It even includes tobacco shops. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ban could be approved today. It even includes tobacco shops.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the badgering arrogance of these ban groups is really getting to a lot of people, even non smokers. To complain about something being done to give our troops SOMETHING to enjoy is Anti-American. I see some of them returning, going to a bar that is complying with the ban, and saying &quot;what am I fighting for&quot;? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the badgering arrogance of these ban groups is really getting to a lot of people, even non smokers. To complain about something being done to give our troops SOMETHING to enjoy is Anti-American. I see some of them returning, going to a bar that is complying with the ban, and saying &quot;what am I fighting for&quot;?</p>
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		<title>By: George E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>George E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you see the front-page NYT story last month about the profound negative impact of smoking bans on charities that use bingo to raise money? Their income has dropped dramatically as players stay away and aren&#039;t replaced by non-smoking players. Washington State had 100 charity bingo parlors before the ban; now it&#039;s fewer than 20. You can read the story &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/us/24bingo.html?sq=bingo&amp;st=nyt&amp;adxnnl=1&amp;scp=2&amp;adxnnlx=1210691598-FhurLibhIMYR+G1bY4yhvg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you see the front-page NYT story last month about the profound negative impact of smoking bans on charities that use bingo to raise money? Their income has dropped dramatically as players stay away and aren&#039;t replaced by non-smoking players. Washington State had 100 charity bingo parlors before the ban; now it&#039;s fewer than 20. You can read the story &lt;a href=&quot;<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/us/24bingo.html?sq=bingo&#038;st=nyt&#038;adxnnl=1&#038;scp=2&#038;adxnnlx=1210691598-FhurLibhIMYR+G1bY4yhvg&#038;quot" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/us/24bingo.html?sq=bingo&#038;st=nyt&#038;adxnnl=1&#038;scp=2&#038;adxnnlx=1210691598-FhurLibhIMYR+G1bY4yhvg&#038;quot</a>; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.</p>
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