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		<title>By: snowbird</title>
		<link>http://www.stogieguys.com/2008/06/06062008-stogie-guys-friday-sampler-ciii.html/comment-page-1#comment-38040</link>
		<dc:creator>snowbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bandwagon of local smoking bans now steamrolling across the nation - 
from sea to sea- has nothing to do with protecting people from the supposed 
threat of &quot;second-hand&quot; smoke. 
 
Indeed, the bans themselves are symptoms of a far more grievous threat; a 
cancer that has been spreading for decades and has now metastasized 
throughout the body politic, spreading even to the tiniest organs of local 
government. This cancer is the only real hazard involved - the cancer of 
unlimited government power. 
 
The issue is not whether second-hand smoke is a real danger or a phantom 
menace, as a study published recently in the British Medical Journal 
indicates. The issue is: if it were harmful, what would be the proper 
reaction? Should anti-tobacco activists satisfy themselves with educating 
people about the potential danger and allowing them to make 
their own decisions, or should they seize the power of government and force 
people to make the &quot;right&quot; decision? 
 
Supporters of local tobacco bans have made their choice. Rather than 
attempting to protect people from an unwanted intrusion on their health, the 
tobacco bans are the unwanted intrusion. 
 
Loudly billed as measures that only affect &quot;public places,&quot; they have 
actually targeted private places: restaurants, bars, nightclubs, shops, and 
offices - places whose owners are free to set anti-smoking rules or whose 
customers are free to go elsewhere if they don&#039;t like the smoke. Some local 
bans even harass smokers in places where their effect on others is obviously 
negligible, such as outdoor public parks. 
 
The decision to smoke, or to avoid &quot;second-hand&quot; smoke, is a question to be 
answered by each individual based on his own values and his own assessment 
of the risks. This is the same kind of decision free people make regarding 
every aspect of their lives: how much to spend or invest, whom to befriend 
or sleep with, whether to go to college or get a job, whether to get married 
or divorced, and so on. 
 
All of these decisions involve risks; some have demonstrably harmful 
consequences; most are controversial and invite disapproval from the 
neighbours. But the individual must be free to make these decisions. He must 
be free, because his life belongs to him, not to his neighbours, and only 
 his own judgment can guide him through it. 
 
 Yet when it comes to smoking, this freedom is under attack. Cigarette 
smokers are a numerical minority, practicing a habit considered annoying and 
unpleasant to the majority. So the majority has simply commandeered the 
power of government and used it to dictate their behaviour. 
 
That is why these bans are far more threatening than the prospect of 
inhaling a few stray whiffs of tobacco while waiting for a table at your 
favourite restaurant. The anti-tobacco crusaders point in exaggerated alarm 
at those wisps of smoke while they unleash the systematic and unlimited 
intrusion of government into our lives. 
 
We do not elect officials to control and manipulate our behaviour. 
 
  
Thomas Laprade 
480 Rupert St. 
Thunder Bay, Ont. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bandwagon of local smoking bans now steamrolling across the nation -</p>
<p>from sea to sea- has nothing to do with protecting people from the supposed</p>
<p>threat of &quot;second-hand&quot; smoke.</p>
<p>Indeed, the bans themselves are symptoms of a far more grievous threat; a</p>
<p>cancer that has been spreading for decades and has now metastasized</p>
<p>throughout the body politic, spreading even to the tiniest organs of local</p>
<p>government. This cancer is the only real hazard involved &#8211; the cancer of</p>
<p>unlimited government power.</p>
<p>The issue is not whether second-hand smoke is a real danger or a phantom</p>
<p>menace, as a study published recently in the British Medical Journal</p>
<p>indicates. The issue is: if it were harmful, what would be the proper</p>
<p>reaction? Should anti-tobacco activists satisfy themselves with educating</p>
<p>people about the potential danger and allowing them to make</p>
<p>their own decisions, or should they seize the power of government and force</p>
<p>people to make the &quot;right&quot; decision?</p>
<p>Supporters of local tobacco bans have made their choice. Rather than</p>
<p>attempting to protect people from an unwanted intrusion on their health, the</p>
<p>tobacco bans are the unwanted intrusion.</p>
<p>Loudly billed as measures that only affect &quot;public places,&quot; they have</p>
<p>actually targeted private places: restaurants, bars, nightclubs, shops, and</p>
<p>offices &#8211; places whose owners are free to set anti-smoking rules or whose</p>
<p>customers are free to go elsewhere if they don&#039;t like the smoke. Some local</p>
<p>bans even harass smokers in places where their effect on others is obviously</p>
<p>negligible, such as outdoor public parks.</p>
<p>The decision to smoke, or to avoid &quot;second-hand&quot; smoke, is a question to be</p>
<p>answered by each individual based on his own values and his own assessment</p>
<p>of the risks. This is the same kind of decision free people make regarding</p>
<p>every aspect of their lives: how much to spend or invest, whom to befriend</p>
<p>or sleep with, whether to go to college or get a job, whether to get married</p>
<p>or divorced, and so on.</p>
<p>All of these decisions involve risks; some have demonstrably harmful</p>
<p>consequences; most are controversial and invite disapproval from the</p>
<p>neighbours. But the individual must be free to make these decisions. He must</p>
<p>be free, because his life belongs to him, not to his neighbours, and only</p>
<p> his own judgment can guide him through it.</p>
<p> Yet when it comes to smoking, this freedom is under attack. Cigarette</p>
<p>smokers are a numerical minority, practicing a habit considered annoying and</p>
<p>unpleasant to the majority. So the majority has simply commandeered the</p>
<p>power of government and used it to dictate their behaviour.</p>
<p>That is why these bans are far more threatening than the prospect of</p>
<p>inhaling a few stray whiffs of tobacco while waiting for a table at your</p>
<p>favourite restaurant. The anti-tobacco crusaders point in exaggerated alarm</p>
<p>at those wisps of smoke while they unleash the systematic and unlimited</p>
<p>intrusion of government into our lives.</p>
<p>We do not elect officials to control and manipulate our behaviour.</p>
<p>Thomas Laprade</p>
<p>480 Rupert St.</p>
<p>Thunder Bay, Ont.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 12:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#8217;re 100 percent right, Mike, and thanks for pointing that out. My apologies for the error. I must have been smoking something strong when I was putting together the Sampler last night. 
 
The news item has been corrected. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&rsquo;re 100 percent right, Mike, and thanks for pointing that out. My apologies for the error. I must have been smoking something strong when I was putting together the Sampler last night.</p>
<p>The news item has been corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys need to correct the Ohio news item. Actually, the state Supreme Court ruled the health dept. did not have the right to draft smoking regulations that exempted private clubs. Private clubs arre not exempt. 
 
From the Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch: 
 
Ohio&#039;s smoking ban applies to private clubs, high court rules 
 
By James Nash 
 
Veterans&#039; halls and other members-only clubs will be no-smoking zones despite Gov. Ted Strickland&#039;s quest to exempt them from the statewide smoking ban. 
 
The Ohio Supreme Court extinguished the clubs&#039; last legal case to get out from under the law that bans smoking at restaurants, bars and nearly all other public buildings. 
 
Without comment today, the state&#039;s highest court let stand rulings from the Franklin County Common Pleas Court and Court of Appeals that applied the smoking ban to private clubs because their employees would be exposed to secondhand smoke. 
 
The court&#039;s 4-3 decision left some clubs gasping for air. ... 
*** </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys need to correct the Ohio news item. Actually, the state Supreme Court ruled the health dept. did not have the right to draft smoking regulations that exempted private clubs. Private clubs arre not exempt.</p>
<p>From the Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch:</p>
<p>Ohio&#039;s smoking ban applies to private clubs, high court rules</p>
<p>By James Nash</p>
<p>Veterans&#039; halls and other members-only clubs will be no-smoking zones despite Gov. Ted Strickland&#039;s quest to exempt them from the statewide smoking ban.</p>
<p>The Ohio Supreme Court extinguished the clubs&#039; last legal case to get out from under the law that bans smoking at restaurants, bars and nearly all other public buildings.</p>
<p>Without comment today, the state&#039;s highest court let stand rulings from the Franklin County Common Pleas Court and Court of Appeals that applied the smoking ban to private clubs because their employees would be exposed to secondhand smoke.</p>
<p>The court&#039;s 4-3 decision left some clubs gasping for air. &#8230;</p>
<p>***</p>
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