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		<title>By: Stogie News: Smoke Gets In Your Eyes, Not To Mention Clouding Polls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stogie News: Smoke Gets In Your Eyes, Not To Mention Clouding Polls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this month, Patrick A. wrote about a press release by Action on Smoking and Health (ASH) advocating greater smoking restrictions and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The purpose of &quot;the people&quot; is to put politicians in check...they have no fear to take our freedoms away so they can further their political careers. But as long as we all sit back an vote for people like Hitlery Clinton, Barrack, or the old guy we will never have a true American voice. Check out Ron Paul and his constitutional approach to politics. We will only have true FREEDOM when we want it, until then keep complaining on the internet cigar blogs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose of &#8220;the people&#8221; is to put politicians in check&#8230;they have no fear to take our freedoms away so they can further their political careers. But as long as we all sit back an vote for people like Hitlery Clinton, Barrack, or the old guy we will never have a true American voice. Check out Ron Paul and his constitutional approach to politics. We will only have true FREEDOM when we want it, until then keep complaining on the internet cigar blogs!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d better smoke &#039;em while I got &#039;em, then! Hopefully they don&#039;t prohibit tobacco within the next, oh, 500 or so days, or I&#039;m S.O.L.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d better smoke &#8216;em while I got &#8216;em, then! Hopefully they don&#8217;t prohibit tobacco within the next, oh, 500 or so days, or I&#8217;m S.O.L.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon N. you are absolutely correct in your statement on how they are going about it.  So it seems they may have studied history in how to implement their ultimate vision.  However, they have clearly forgotten history when it comes to the ultimate effect of their campaign...the next Al Capone may be in the cigar business :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon N. you are absolutely correct in your statement on how they are going about it.  So it seems they may have studied history in how to implement their ultimate vision.  However, they have clearly forgotten history when it comes to the ultimate effect of their campaign&#8230;the next Al Capone may be in the cigar business <img src='http://www.stogieguys.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jon N.</title>
		<link>http://www.stogieguys.com/2008/07/stogie-news-the-latest-front-in-the-war-could-be-your-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-39962</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc: You&#039;d think these guys would have learned the lessons of prohibition from the &#039;20s and &#039;30s. Unfortunately, those who don&#039;t know history are doomed to repeat it.

What&#039;s particularly bothersome this time around is the insidious nature in which the &quot;antis&quot; are going about their business. They&#039;re using two very clever tactics that the alcohol prohibitionists didn&#039;t employ: 

1) They&#039;re banning the way in which tobacco can be used, rather than the substance itself. In wording it&#039;s not the same thing, but in effect it is. So they&#039;re orchestrating a &quot;backdoor&quot; ban on the substance without actually banning the substance altogether in writing.

2) They&#039;re doing it in small increments. Each time an incremental restriction is passed, it&#039;s very hard to go back.

Clever, sick bastards they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc: You&#8217;d think these guys would have learned the lessons of prohibition from the &#8217;20s and &#8217;30s. Unfortunately, those who don&#8217;t know history are doomed to repeat it.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s particularly bothersome this time around is the insidious nature in which the &#8220;antis&#8221; are going about their business. They&#8217;re using two very clever tactics that the alcohol prohibitionists didn&#8217;t employ: </p>
<p>1) They&#8217;re banning the way in which tobacco can be used, rather than the substance itself. In wording it&#8217;s not the same thing, but in effect it is. So they&#8217;re orchestrating a &#8220;backdoor&#8221; ban on the substance without actually banning the substance altogether in writing.</p>
<p>2) They&#8217;re doing it in small increments. Each time an incremental restriction is passed, it&#8217;s very hard to go back.</p>
<p>Clever, sick bastards they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the self righteous idiots who want smoking banned outright fail to realize is that they will drive a substantial industry into the eager arms of organized crime.  And then the completely ineffective, wasteful and idiotic &quot;war&quot; on drugs will swell our prisons with underground tobacco dealers and users.  If these morons educated themselves in a bit of history and sociology they might actually be educated morons...and then we would be lucky enough that they could use their brains for something they have seemed to forget existed...logic and good judgement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the self righteous idiots who want smoking banned outright fail to realize is that they will drive a substantial industry into the eager arms of organized crime.  And then the completely ineffective, wasteful and idiotic &#8220;war&#8221; on drugs will swell our prisons with underground tobacco dealers and users.  If these morons educated themselves in a bit of history and sociology they might actually be educated morons&#8230;and then we would be lucky enough that they could use their brains for something they have seemed to forget existed&#8230;logic and good judgement.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said, Thomas.</description>
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		<title>By: Accipeter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Accipeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, hear, Thomas! Well said.</description>
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		<title>By: Mac and Nudo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mac and Nudo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto.</description>
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		<title>By: snowbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>snowbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bandwagon of local smoking bans now steamrolling across the nation -
from sea to sea- has nothing to do with protecting people from the supposed
threat of &quot;second-hand&quot; smoke.

Indeed, the bans themselves are symptoms of a far more grievous threat; a
cancer that has been spreading for decades and has now metastasized
throughout the body politic, spreading even to the tiniest organs of local
government. This cancer is the only real hazard involved - the cancer of
unlimited government power.

The issue is not whether second-hand smoke is a real danger or a phantom
menace, as a study published recently in the British Medical Journal
indicates. The issue is: if it were harmful, what would be the proper
reaction? Should anti-tobacco activists satisfy themselves with educating
people about the potential danger and allowing them to make
their own decisions, or should they seize the power of government and force
people to make the &quot;right&quot; decision?

Supporters of local tobacco bans have made their choice. Rather than
attempting to protect people from an unwanted intrusion on their health, the
tobacco bans are the unwanted intrusion.

Loudly billed as measures that only affect &quot;public places,&quot; they have
actually targeted private places: restaurants, bars, nightclubs, shops, and
offices - places whose owners are free to set anti-smoking rules or whose
customers are free to go elsewhere if they don&#039;t like the smoke. Some local
bans even harass smokers in places where their effect on others is obviously
negligible, such as outdoor public parks.

The decision to smoke, or to avoid &quot;second-hand&quot; smoke, is a question to be
answered by each individual based on his own values and his own assessment
of the risks. This is the same kind of decision free people make regarding
every aspect of their lives: how much to spend or invest, whom to befriend
or sleep with, whether to go to college or get a job, whether to get married
or divorced, and so on.

All of these decisions involve risks; some have demonstrably harmful
consequences; most are controversial and invite disapproval from the
neighbours. But the individual must be free to make these decisions. He must
be free, because his life belongs to him, not to his neighbours, and only
 his own judgment can guide him through it.

 Yet when it comes to smoking, this freedom is under attack. Cigarette
smokers are a numerical minority, practicing a habit considered annoying and
unpleasant to the majority. So the majority has simply commandeered the
power of government and used it to dictate their behaviour.

That is why these bans are far more threatening than the prospect of
inhaling a few stray whiffs of tobacco while waiting for a table at your
favourite restaurant. The anti-tobacco crusaders point in exaggerated alarm
at those wisps of smoke while they unleash the systematic and unlimited
intrusion of government into our lives.

We do not elect officials to control and manipulate our behaviour.

 
Thomas Laprade
480 Rupert St.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bandwagon of local smoking bans now steamrolling across the nation -<br />
from sea to sea- has nothing to do with protecting people from the supposed<br />
threat of &#8220;second-hand&#8221; smoke.</p>
<p>Indeed, the bans themselves are symptoms of a far more grievous threat; a<br />
cancer that has been spreading for decades and has now metastasized<br />
throughout the body politic, spreading even to the tiniest organs of local<br />
government. This cancer is the only real hazard involved &#8211; the cancer of<br />
unlimited government power.</p>
<p>The issue is not whether second-hand smoke is a real danger or a phantom<br />
menace, as a study published recently in the British Medical Journal<br />
indicates. The issue is: if it were harmful, what would be the proper<br />
reaction? Should anti-tobacco activists satisfy themselves with educating<br />
people about the potential danger and allowing them to make<br />
their own decisions, or should they seize the power of government and force<br />
people to make the &#8220;right&#8221; decision?</p>
<p>Supporters of local tobacco bans have made their choice. Rather than<br />
attempting to protect people from an unwanted intrusion on their health, the<br />
tobacco bans are the unwanted intrusion.</p>
<p>Loudly billed as measures that only affect &#8220;public places,&#8221; they have<br />
actually targeted private places: restaurants, bars, nightclubs, shops, and<br />
offices &#8211; places whose owners are free to set anti-smoking rules or whose<br />
customers are free to go elsewhere if they don&#8217;t like the smoke. Some local<br />
bans even harass smokers in places where their effect on others is obviously<br />
negligible, such as outdoor public parks.</p>
<p>The decision to smoke, or to avoid &#8220;second-hand&#8221; smoke, is a question to be<br />
answered by each individual based on his own values and his own assessment<br />
of the risks. This is the same kind of decision free people make regarding<br />
every aspect of their lives: how much to spend or invest, whom to befriend<br />
or sleep with, whether to go to college or get a job, whether to get married<br />
or divorced, and so on.</p>
<p>All of these decisions involve risks; some have demonstrably harmful<br />
consequences; most are controversial and invite disapproval from the<br />
neighbours. But the individual must be free to make these decisions. He must<br />
be free, because his life belongs to him, not to his neighbours, and only<br />
 his own judgment can guide him through it.</p>
<p> Yet when it comes to smoking, this freedom is under attack. Cigarette<br />
smokers are a numerical minority, practicing a habit considered annoying and<br />
unpleasant to the majority. So the majority has simply commandeered the<br />
power of government and used it to dictate their behaviour.</p>
<p>That is why these bans are far more threatening than the prospect of<br />
inhaling a few stray whiffs of tobacco while waiting for a table at your<br />
favourite restaurant. The anti-tobacco crusaders point in exaggerated alarm<br />
at those wisps of smoke while they unleash the systematic and unlimited<br />
intrusion of government into our lives.</p>
<p>We do not elect officials to control and manipulate our behaviour.</p>
<p>Thomas Laprade<br />
480 Rupert St.</p>
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